Is St. Germain the one who will turn LC back into a powerhouse? Will he get the kids who usually go to Andrean over LC for football?

st germain will turn this around...you watch. That guy is intense and if you want to hear a coach talk before a guy you should listen to him.

[quote="MT88"]Will he get the kids who usually go to Andrean over LC for football?
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Regions Best I'm curious how many kids playing for Andrean (other than the coaches kid) would have been LC players. I keep hearing people state that there are tons of kids leaving LC to go to Andrean but no one knows who or how many. Can you or anyone else tell me?

It odd, cause the enrollment at Andrean has dropped in recent years, so to say tons of kids are leaving LC to go to Andrean sounds a little funny and more like an excuse.

This BS has been echoing for years about LC. The biggest problem schools like LC, CP or Portage have is they draw from themselves. Every year our team would lose 2 or 4 standout players to other sports. We lost our starting DB due to baseball they moved him to pitcher. We also lost a LB, RB, TE to hockey because of concurrent seasons. Small schools have the luxury of using track or wrestling as a football condition program while at bigger schools every sport competes all year round.

Draw from themselves? Really? 2 or 4 each year? Really? I find that hard to believe. So small schools are luxurious because our other sports are football conditioning programs. I think a lot of track and wrestling coaches would disagree with you. Look at your last sentence again. It really doesn't make sense. Small schools have the same problem with less students so this is more of a small school complaint than big school. Use your big school excuses. Like, "We might have a 100 kids on the team but that just means we have more that aren't any good." Come on phantom you can do better than that.

2Cents Really, I use to have a hard time believing we would lose a player to another sport as well, but that happens really. You do touch on a good point about the larger roster because I have read on these threads a few times as well. It always starts with well LC should win every game because they have a hundred guys go out for the team. If you look at any 5A rosters around you’ll see the bulk of it is sophomores.

Looking at all the sports across the board at LC they all compete every year so athletes have a choice where a smaller school may have football or basketball as king. When people say Melby needs to go around and start grabbing these guys out of the hall it’s not that easy and I’m pretty sure he probably tried that in the beginning. Also I bet if you asked any coach In the bigger schools they would say they would love to go cherry pick other sports for players. So for people to say wow I was at LC and saw 100 of the badest dudes on the face of the earth I think I can make 4 teams out of that and be the greatest football coach ever is unrealistic. Any given year your M’ville’s, CP’s, or LC’s probably deal with around 30 players that can step in and play now. Your argument is valid by saying small schools have less, what I am saying is big deal the point people make is that the bigger the roster the bigger the talent pool and its just not true at a school the size of LC with everything they offer. I guarantee anybody on here that played at the bigger schools would say they lost teammates to other sports. I know you have the 2 or 3 sport athletes but it always seemed to trim down when kids found what they wanted.

But anyway good luck to St. Germain this season I think LC will be fine. Ill tell you what 2cents, will make a bet if LC wins state his first year St. Germain has to take everyone out for breakfast that posted something on this thread… I think he will go for that don’t you

Well if you believe one of the states largest enrollment schools major problem is to many kids or to many sports or to many of whatever it is your trying to say, I believe you. But I really couldn't comprehend your last point about breakfast. Maybe its because me speak not english well very though.

Still waiting to hear about all the LC players that have left LC in mass exodus to Andrean...anyone?

What kind of talent do they have returning next year? Will they win more than 3 games, tops?

I'm not sure that LC loses many players to Andrean these days, however if you looked at Andrean's state runner-up teams, they were littered with Dyer, Schererville, and St. John residents. I mean off the top of my head, their QB, two RB's, TE, and 2 OL were from the LC district. I'm excited for the next few years of football at LC. The middle school programs and freshmen level teams have been successful, I just hope that they stick it out and make something happen on the field.

SportsfanGMS you are correct. They USE to draw players to Andrean from LC. If you are who you say you are, and I have no reason to think otherwise, you should be able to talk to the coaches and get us an exact number. Simply I imagine it is minimal. Yes, it happened while Britton was there and it was not an excuse and LC still would compete. There are individuals that claim this as the excuse for Melbys lack of success and are already now setting up the Andrean defense if St. Germain should fail.
I don't accept it. Melby was a horrible coach who couldn't win with the talent he had. He and others regularly have made excuses for his lack of success by blaming others. That time is gone and done. The time of making excuses is over, but I see people starting to set up the Andrean drawing from LC defense for St. Germain. With over 100 kids at the JV/varsity level, about 50 at the freshman level, and probably about 100 at the 8th grade level, along with those who move in any decent coach should be able to be competitive and that is the minimum. They should excel! To blame kids transfering out is a joke. If you can't win with that many kids in your program something is wrong! I wish Brett and his staff all the luck and give full support. However with that being said if 4 years from now we are still only winning 1 or 2 games a year, I will be looking for his head on the chopping block also. I expect LC to be 500 next regular season and move up from there each year!

How is he going to be 500 or better when the football team losses there good players to other sports in the school? LC is to big and has to many other successful sports which pull kids away from football according to footballphantom. Look what a large enrollment and other successful sports has done to schools like carmel and warren central.

TP, I can't get you a figure because I don't believe we are losing that many kids to Andrean, and those that are going were not kids I would consider to be core members of any of the three middle school teams. We've lost a few to Mt. Carmel and St. Rita, but there are no excuses for not winning. I also wanted to address another part of your post. Bill Melby never made excuses for not winning, I know the man personally and he cared about the kids and is a good man. Was it frustrating to watch his team's performances every Friday?, Sure, but that has nothing to do with the man's character. He'll move on and I think that the LC boat is moving in the right direction. I think that the kids and parents are buzzing over this move and that can never be a bad thing. I'm not trying to set the bar too low, but I think a .500 season would be a success in his first year. I think it may be slow to get going, but by the end it will be a better team. I only feel this way because some of their best athletes are young and need to get acclimated to playing on the Varsity level. Talent is there, but the kids need to stick with it and push each other, there is no substitute for self-motivation and the boys need to want it just as bad as the coach, I'm not sure that was the case the past few years, just an observation on my part. We shall see, and I can't wait for the fall to see what happens.

What's all this talk about losing kids to Andrean? Kids from all over the region go to Andrean. Quite a few kids from the various school districts in the region go to Andrean for a variety of reasons which have NOTHING to do with football or any other athletics. That's how it is for EVERY school in the region. Some families choose to send their kids to a private school and others don't.

Brett is going to do a good job at LC and demonstrate his expertise as a teacher. Those kids aren't superstars coming out of elementary school. Most of what they know about football has to be untaught and they have to re-learn at the HS level. Mr. St. Germaine has had success as a teacher and there isn't any reason to think otherwise - unless he is put in a position to fail by his employers and/or the team's support groups. Everyone has to behave as part of the team and put their faith in the guy they chose to run the team program. That means that the kids don't tell the coaches what they will/won't do. That means the parents back that up by supporting the coach's decisions.

It should be interesting moving forward.